Positions P&L vs funds gains differences on Kite
A user closes a position on the Kite Positions tab and sees a realised P&L of Rs X. Looking at the funds page , the cash balance has not increased by exactly Rs X. The difference is normal and explained by several intervening adjustments.
The two figures are not the same thing
| Figure | What it shows |
|---|---|
| Positions P&L (realised) | The pre-charge gain or loss from the trade |
| Funds gain (cash credit) | The net amount that lands in your account after charges and settlement |
A profitable trade with positive Positions P&L will produce a positive funds gain, but the absolute amounts differ.
The intervening adjustments
1. Brokerage and exchange charges
For each trade:
- Brokerage (Zerodha’s: Rs 20 flat for intraday and F&O; 0% for delivery).
- STT (0.025% for delivery sells, intraday sells; different for F&O).
- Exchange transaction charge (NSE / BSE / MCX).
- GST (18% on brokerage + exchange charge).
- Stamp duty.
- SEBI fee.
Total charges per trade can be 0.05% to 0.5% of trade value. Positions P&L is gross of charges; funds gain is net.
2. Settlement timing
Equity trades settle T+1; F&O daily MTM settles same day. For a CNC sell:
- Positions Day view shows realised P&L immediately.
- Funds reflect the proceeds on T+1 evening (after settlement).
So on T-day, you see realised P&L on Positions, but funds have not yet moved.
3. F&O MTM accounting
For F&O positions held overnight:
- Daily MTM settlement debits / credits your account at end of T-day.
- Positions tab shows the position’s running P&L since open (not just T-day).
- Funds reflect only the T-day MTM (the slice you keep / lose today).
A position open for 10 days will show cumulative P&L on Positions but only the last day’s MTM directly visible in T-day funds.
4. Option premium handling
Selling an option credits the premium immediately to cash. The premium is part of the position’s eventual realised P&L when closed. The chronology:
- Day T (open): premium credit to cash; margin used up.
- Day T+5 (close): buy-back debit; margin released.
- Net cash change over the cycle: premium received - buy-back price (gross of charges).
- Net realised P&L on Positions: same as the cash change minus charges.
5. Pledged collateral changes
If you pledge or un-pledge during the day, collateral value (not cash) changes. The funds page may show a higher margin available without any cash gain, because the available increased due to new pledge value.
Worked example
You sell 1 lot of NIFTY 23MAY 22000 CE at Rs 100 premium (lot size 50). The premium credit: Rs 5,000.
3 days later, you buy back at Rs 30 premium. Buy-back cost: Rs 1,500.
Net cash effect over the cycle:
- Day T: +Rs 5,000.
- Day T+3: -Rs 1,500.
- Net: +Rs 3,500.
Positions P&L (realised, gross of charges): Rs 100 - Rs 30 = Rs 70 per share x 50 = Rs 3,500.
Funds gain (after charges, approximately):
- Brokerage: Rs 40 (Rs 20 per side x 2 sides).
- STT, exchange, GST, stamp duty, SEBI: Rs ~100 (illustrative).
- Net cash gain: Rs 3,500 - Rs 140 = Rs 3,360.
So Positions P&L: Rs 3,500. Funds gain: Rs 3,360. Difference: Rs 140 (charges).
Where to see the breakdown
For an exact reconciliation:
- Console > Reports > Tradebook for trade details.
- Console > Reports > Trade P&L for net (after charges) P&L.
- Console > Reports > Charges Statement for charge breakdown per trade.
These reports show the gross P&L, charge details, and net P&L. The funds account balance change equals the net P&L (with settlement timing applied).
See also
- Margin available / used / cash on Kite funds
- SPAN and exposure margin on Kite
- Margin required on order window
- Margin on exit calculation
- Delivery margin field on Kite
- Pay-in funds explained
- Option premium credit on Kite funds
- Collateral (equity) on Kite
- Collateral (liquid funds) on Kite
- Dashboard / funds calculation flow
- Intraday profits from yesterday on Kite
- How to fix missing decimal values on Kite funds
- Minimum stock SIP amount on Kite
- Kite Positions tab explained
- Kite Holdings tab explained
- Day’s P&L on holdings calculation
- P&L change after 3:30 PM
- Intraday P&L on Kite web
- Realised vs unrealised profit calculation
- Holdings value differs Console vs Kite
- Sold stocks shown as negative positions
- F&O LTP change on positions before market opens
- Credit from T1 holdings unavailable same day
- T1 above shares on holdings
- STT and STCG tax (India)
- Securities Transaction Tax
- Brokerage calculator (Zerodha)
- Kite (Zerodha)
- Kite web
- Kite mobile app
- Zerodha
- Zerodha Console
External references
References
- Zerodha Support, Trade P&L and net cash impact, support.zerodha.com.
- Zerodha Console, Charges statement methodology, console.zerodha.com.
- SEBI, Charges and STT framework, sebi.gov.in.